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They must go against their instincts to protect their child.&#8217;<\/p>\n<h3><strong>Crucial voices<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>What stands out in all cases (which we will not discuss further here) is that two crucial voices are always missing: those of the parent and the child. That it starts in pedagogy with a trust relationship between adult and child seems to have escaped the makers. The important question is why the NVO wants to connect itself with the content of this podcast.<\/p>\n<h3><strong>Responsibility<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>&#8216;I assume the NVO will take responsibility by distancing itself and apologizing,&#8217; says Lobke Vlaming. Just like parent association Balans, Ouders &#038; Onderwijs distances itself from this podcast. We join the <a href=\"https:\/\/balansdigitaal.nl\/nieuws\/open-brief-oudervereniging-balans-aan-de-nvo-over-podcast\/\">letter<\/a> Balans set up. 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